Comments on: Who is more evil, Google or the Chinese government? http://brianrowe.org/IMT550/2010/01/19/who-is-more-evil-google-or-the-chinese-government/ Class Blog for IMT 550, Winter 2010, @ UW Ischool Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:17:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Andrew http://brianrowe.org/IMT550/2010/01/19/who-is-more-evil-google-or-the-chinese-government/comment-page-1/#comment-221 Andrew Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:53:41 +0000 http://brianrowe.org/IMT550/?p=46#comment-221 Google leaving China is bad for its business in the long term. Forget about losing to rival search engines at the moment. Google success is driven on innovation whether it'd be from their talented staff or buying out new start to that offer great potential. Leaving China is giving up the opportunity to have access to a country that is bound drive innovation in the coming years. You are giving up access to talented people, new ideas, new research etc. These things may not equate to $$$ immediately but its more about helping you company be more competitive. Indeed Google has not seen dominating success in China as compared to countries. It is wrong to think you can repeat such previous successes. Doing business in China is a long term commitment. Google leaving China is bad for its business in the long term.

Forget about losing to rival search engines at the moment. Google success is driven on innovation whether it’d be from their talented staff or buying out new start to that offer great potential. Leaving China is giving up the opportunity to have access to a country that is bound drive innovation in the coming years. You are giving up access to talented people, new ideas, new research etc. These things may not equate to $$$ immediately but its more about helping you company be more competitive.

Indeed Google has not seen dominating success in China as compared to countries. It is wrong to think you can repeat such previous successes. Doing business in China is a long term commitment.

]]> By: Trupti http://brianrowe.org/IMT550/2010/01/19/who-is-more-evil-google-or-the-chinese-government/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Trupti Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:39:36 +0000 http://brianrowe.org/IMT550/?p=46#comment-19 I found an interesting article which I would like to share with you. In today’s news on CNN there is an article by Bruce Schneier who is a security technologist .He says that “The Chinese hackers exploited feature put into system at behest of U.S. government and when governments get access to private communications, they invite abuse” . The U.S. government has mandated several companies to open their back-door to enable them to do search warrants on user data for e.g. phone companies, Gmail services etc. This helped the Chinese hackers to penetrate the Gmail accounts of human activists. Even though it is true that there are loopholes in the U.S. government law which promotes surveillance and access to private communications, I believe that the Chinese hackers did wrong by penetrating the accounts of human activists. If there was no back door access to user data, the hackers would have used another medium to fulfill their purpose. Hence the hackers are responsible for the wrong doing. http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/01/23/schneier.google.hacking/index.html?hpt=C2 I found an interesting article which I would like to share with you. In today’s news on CNN there is an article by Bruce Schneier who is a security technologist .He says that “The Chinese hackers exploited feature put into system at behest of U.S. government and when governments get access to private communications, they invite abuse” .
The U.S. government has mandated several companies to open their back-door to enable them to do search warrants on user data for e.g. phone companies, Gmail services etc. This helped the Chinese hackers to penetrate the Gmail accounts of human activists.
Even though it is true that there are loopholes in the U.S. government law which promotes surveillance and access to private communications, I believe that the Chinese hackers did wrong by penetrating the accounts of human activists. If there was no back door access to user data, the hackers would have used another medium to fulfill their purpose. Hence the hackers are responsible for the wrong doing.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/01/23/schneier.google.hacking/index.html?hpt=C2

]]> By: NMalone http://brianrowe.org/IMT550/2010/01/19/who-is-more-evil-google-or-the-chinese-government/comment-page-1/#comment-9 NMalone Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:42:21 +0000 http://brianrowe.org/IMT550/?p=46#comment-9 I'm not sure who's more evil, but it sure is a provocative title. Either way, I think Google may be well served by pulling out of China at this time. It's very common for companies to mismanage an international venture by trying to take the culture of parent country to the host country. See Walmart's misadventures in Germany, or Starbuck's fiasco in France. Whether Google has horribly botched the culture gap or not (and it probably did), the level of political risk they are being exposed to is bad for the share holders. Google is apparently now inviting allegedly state sponsored cyber attacks, which is something any shareholder should want them to avoid. The ONDD rates China a 4/7 for risk of government expropriation or intervention, and the kinds of services (and values) Google brings to China seem to me to make this a particularly strong risk. I’m not sure who’s more evil, but it sure is a provocative title. Either way, I think Google may be well served by pulling out of China at this time. It’s very common for companies to mismanage an international venture by trying to take the culture of parent country to the host country. See Walmart’s misadventures in Germany, or Starbuck’s fiasco in France.
Whether Google has horribly botched the culture gap or not (and it probably did), the level of political risk they are being exposed to is bad for the share holders. Google is apparently now inviting allegedly state sponsored cyber attacks, which is something any shareholder should want them to avoid. The ONDD rates China a 4/7 for risk of government expropriation or intervention, and the kinds of services (and values) Google brings to China seem to me to make this a particularly strong risk.

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